.avif)
“I want you to go buy a house or I want you to go, you know, pay off your student loans or your debt and to be tangible about what you're doing. And if you can't say it in an authentic way, I think that's where things kind of fall apart.”In this episode of the Entreprenista Podcast, we sit down with Kass Lazerow—serial founder, investor, and New York Times bestselling author of Shoveling $hit: A Love Story About the Entrepreneur’s Messy Path to Success. Kass shares the unfiltered reality of building companies from the ground up, from selling websites in the late ’90s when people were still asking “what’s the internet?” to building and scaling iconic businesses like Golf.com and Buddy Media, the latter reaching $50M in ARR in just three years.
Kass takes us behind the scenes of the highs and devastating lows of entrepreneurship, including surviving the dot-com crash, going months without paying herself or her team, rebuilding after bankruptcy, and betting on radical transparency as her defining leadership principle. She dives deep into how and why she structured companies where everyone owned a piece of the pie, her unconventional approach to scaling (including why she sometimes laid people off after raising capital), and what most founders get wrong about incentives, focus, and growth.
What we talked about:
The First Business [6:57]
The Rollercoaster of Entrepreneurship [9:31]
Scaling Secrets [17:28]
Know Your Employees [24:38]
About the Book! [30:24]
Connect with Kass:
Join our Entreprenista League community of women founders! You’ll have access to a private community of like-minded Entreprenistas who are making an impact in business every day, special discounts on business products and solutions, exclusive content, private events, the opportunity to have your story featured on our website and social channels, and access to Office Hours with top founders who have been on our show! We can’t wait to welcome you, support you, and be part of your business journey!
Curious about joining the Entreprenista League? Sign up here for a free info session.
Thanks for tuning into this week’s episode of The Entreprenista Podcast - the most fun business meeting for women founders and leaders. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to the show and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts.
Apple Podcasts | TuneIn | Spotify | Stitcher | iHeart Radio | GooglePlayBe sure to share your favorite episodes across social media to help us reach more amazing female founders, like you.
Guests
Kass Lazerow
Hosts
Stephanie Cartin
Co-founder of Socialfly and Entreprenista.
Stephanie Cartin is the co-founder and CEO of Entreprenista, an all-in-one platform – which includes a private community & business membership called The Entreprenista League that's made up of over 2,000 women founders at all stages of business, a weekly newsletter received by 60,000 readers, two podcasts, in-person educational & networking events, and an award program – that women founders at all stages can turn to for everything they need to grow.
Stephanie is also the co-founder of Socialfly (acquired by Truform Media Group in 2024), Markid, and Pearl Influential Capital. She has won countless awards, including the SmartCEO Brava award, which recognizes the top women CEOs in New York, and a Stevie Award for Women-Run Workplace of the Year. She has also appeared in Bloomberg, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Refinery29, and more.
Courtney Spritzer
Co-founder of Entreprenista.
Courtney Spritzer is a serial entrepreneur, angel investor, author, and community builder with a passion for creating brands and platforms that empower women to lead, grow, and thrive.
In 2012, she co-founded Socialfly, a leading social-first digital and influencer marketing agency. Over the course of a decade, she helped scale the business into an award-winning agency working with Fortune 500 brands and emerging startups, building a powerhouse team and culture along the way. In 2024, Socialfly was acquired.
In 2018, Courtney launched the Entreprenista Podcast to spotlight the stories of inspiring women founders. That passion evolved into Entreprenista Media in 2021, a media platform and community supporting women entrepreneurs at every stage of growth. She now co-leads the continued expansion of The Entreprenista League, a membership-driven community and ecosystem for founders.
As an angel investor, Courtney supports female-led and mission-driven startups aligned with her vision for a more inclusive and equitable business landscape.
She is the co-author of Like, Love, Follow: The Entreprenista’s Guide to Using Social Media to Grow Your Business (2015), a strategic guide for leveraging social platforms to drive business success.
Her work and ventures have been featured in Bloomberg, Forbes, Inc., Entrepreneur, and The New York Times. She is committed to championing visionary founders and helping build the next generation of impactful, community-driven businesses.
Join 2,000+ supportive, ambitious founders in the
Highlights
The Latest
Small Business Grants for Women in September 2026
Discover September grants that can help women founders and solopreneurs fund Q4 year-end priorities.
